Abhinav is the cofounder of Niswey, an Inbound Marketing and Account-Based Marketing services. He has twelve years of experience, 9+ of which are in running the agency, Niswey. He has worked with organizations in various industries including media, hospitality, technology, education, social sector, e-commerce, SaaS, etc, primarily helping them with their digital marketing efforts.
Abhinav has received media coverage on BBC (UK), The Week, Careers360, The Telegraph among others. He is a speaker on topics related to Digital Marketing and Entrepreneurship. In his free time, he mentors aspiring (and young) entrepreneurs and volunteers for BharatShikshaa, an NGO which provides free education to underprivileged children.
SEOlium: Abhinav, thank you for doing this! Let’s start with what ABM (account-based marketing) is and how it’s different from traditional marketing?
SEOlium: Is this just another name for marketing tailored around big-names?
SEOlium: Can you share a few examples of ABM campaigns that had outstanding results?
- 55% rise in the unique accounts reached
- 45% unique accounts continuing to engage
- 75% of accounts engaging with long-form content
SEOlium: Abhinav, can you describe a perfect ABM team? Which roles and responsibilities are required to achieve success? What team members are optional but nice to have?
- Executive Sponsor: To offer support and strategic guidance, across sales, support & services. Someone who also brings in alignment between the sales and the marketing teams.
- Sales Head: To keep the team updated on the happenings with accounts.
- Sales Operations: To keep the CRM updated and ensure all sales processes are being adhered to.
- Marketing Head: To drive your entire ABM strategy, right from creation to execution.
- Marketing Operations – people good with:
- Research
- Content writing/marketing
- Advertising
- Marketing automation
- Analytics
- Graphic design
SEOlium: What challenges tied to account-based marketing do you see most often and how can you address them?
- Sales and marketing alignment – We first sit with both the teams to figure out their goals, often that itself shows how misaligned they are. Then we work towards building a common goal, and the KPIs and metrics to track them. Having both teams work together, ensuring regular catch-ups is very important to ensure ABM success. Marketing teams can analyze which accounts are engaging with the brand and are sales qualified, and communicate to sales teams on which accounts to prioritize. Sales teams, keep providing constant feedback and inputs on what is working well and what’s not so that marketing teams keep optimizing their campaigns. Whatever said and done, this still remains a challenge to solve.
- Personalized user experience – This is a major challenge because often businesses know which accounts to go after but not the right people who should be targeted. Hence finding out what content to deliver to them, is often a challenging task. As a result, the desired experience is not delivered. To deal with this, we often work on each account and person in detail, analyzing their personas, pain points, challenges and much more. And based on that, we build distinctive and relevant messages that centre around the solutions to their problems.
SEOlium: Often, the biggest problem people who target large companies face is getting through to decision-makers. What advice do you have for them? How should one get in contact with people responsible for buying decisions? Remember, we only need the good stuff here ☺ What has worked for you? What secret techniques/tricks do you use?
In ABM you’re likely looking at a buying committee, and hence multiple decision-makers and influencers from various departments. You can’t have the same message for all of them; their challenges are completely different. So, you have to truly understand how each influencer or decision-maker is likely viewing the problem, and then tailor the approach to that.
SEOlium: It looks like Account-Based Marketing isn’t very scalable. It requires a lot of resources and there’s also the risk factor. How do you tackle these problems? When should people go with the broad marketing campaigns and when should they choose ABM?
With the complete ABM approach, you can first identify the best approach that works for your business, and then deploy technology to repeat your process. We usually start with a one:many approach. That way, we can go wide and then slowly keep narrowing our focus towards the accounts that show interest. This is when the research starts – which is the resource-intensive part. But by the time we have focused, and so the campaign has become one:few or one:one. So, it’s not as intensive as one would imagine. Of course, unique account engagement is still important, but a balanced approach is what will help you scale as well as optimize the use of resources.
As for when to go with ABM vs broad marketing campaigns, ABM is not for businesses going after a wide market. It can only work with a limited set of accounts, usually a few hundreds. And yes, it’s much more expensive, with all the money and manpower requirements to reach the conversion goals. So, if your business has resources to work towards a full-fledged ABM campaign, go ahead with it! And I can promise you, the gains, when converted, are tremendous!
SEOlium: Abhinav, how can you reduce costs or make it just a bit more scalable without hiring an entire country?
- Run nurturing workflows and targeted ads. You can integrate apps that enable enrichment of your account data.
- Conduct company-wise scoring and not just contact-based scoring. And you can have negative and positive parameters as well.
- Have ABM playbooks, ABM sales templates and sequences for the sales teams.
- ABM reporting and ABM dashboards to keep everything in track.
SEOlium: How should a company choose the accounts they want to work with? This probably depends on the business model, but are there any guidelines on which minimum requirements accounts should meet in order to qualify?
- Who are your most successful customers?
- In a perfect world, which companies would you like to turn into your customers?
Look at their industry, company size, annual revenue, budget, the technology they use and the problems you could solve for them. This will give you an idea of the kind of customers you would love to have for your business. And based on that, create your ideal customer profile (ICP). This then becomes the criteria for any account to qualify in order to meet your target accounts list!
Having said all that, there are two more things that one needs to keep in mind. First, your budgets vs the LifeTime Value (LTV) of your customer. The second is your average sales cycle. If you plan to spend $100,000 on ABM. And your LTV is $10,000, then of course, And if your sales cycle is 3 to 6 months, then it is not a fit. Because to show marketing ROI, you will need to close at least $1M in sales in the first year itself. But if your sales cycle could take up to 6 months, there is no way you can close 100 deals in the first year. These are just random numbers, but I am sure you get the point. So, you need to do some of those calculations, before deciding to do ABM.
SEOlium: Aside from SaaS and IT companies, what other types of businesses can benefit from ABM?
- has a long sales cycle,
- has large deal sizes and high LTV,
- plans to go after their set of target accounts,
- has enough resources to run effective ABM campaigns, and
- can cope through with minimum 6 months of conversion cycle,
SEOlium: SEOlium is a SaaS type of business. We can help anyone (including very large companies such as Airbnb, Expedia, eBay, Amazon, or GoDaddy) with a website by monitoring their Google rankings and extracting valuable insights. What advice do you have for us if we were going to switch to ABM? By the way, I tagged them hoping they would read this interview and reach out for a proposal! = )
If you were to go for it, you could start with the list of accounts. An Amazon or a GoDaddy might not be the right fit for you, as they may have their own tools. But to find that out, you will have to do the research. If you have the resources to do that kind of research, go for it. Start with research to build a good target account list. And then start with content, campaigns etc. is what I would say.